Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

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  1. Lardaltef

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    They'd have to introduce EA as the evil behind the scenes.
     
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    I mean, EA? EAmpire? Coincidence? Can't be because I had to misspell it!
     
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    It doesn't have to be about Revan and that storyline, but if they don't at least give a creditable nod to the games they're missing an enormous opportunity to keep the existing fans interested. I know they've thrown off quite a few with the last two movies and I don't expect the finale to bring them trouping back, but while many have written off the current saga, a fairly large number of them might be willing to give it another poke in the ancient past... as long as it bears some relation to the story they know and love, and is not just another FU to the entire extended universe. Not saying they have to canonize KOTOR (though honestly they'd be wise to) but they don't really have to with some key placed references and mentions, even if they don't actually come to an agreement with the current (KOTOR) license holder.
     
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    Hm. It might be fine. This is one of the few things they didn't retcon outta existence, and the new movies have been a mixed bag instead of being just universally awful like the prequels were.

    If Disney's smart though they'll make damn sure to make them good, since this is probably their best opportunity to realize that "hey let's do another nine movies!" thing they been floating.
     
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    I was thinking more like the Old Republic game (not the stories or people) but more how it is during the old republic time period. But not really anything specific.
     
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    Exactly, in a galaxy far far away surely they can find more than one story about a similar time period yet having very little to actually do with the other :p
     
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    Just got home from this. What a stupid movie.
     
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    ikr? This whole trilogy could have just not existed and it wouldn't change a thing. Rey coulda been a dark horse character, but they never bothered to develop her. Poe coulda been the new Han but he got shelved. Vader Jr. was so generically bland I can't even remember what his friggin' name was.

    Ultimately the only thing this series is gonna be remembered for is that it killed Carrie Fisher.
     
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    Did Disney do anything original in this trilogy? I mean I guess it might have been new to outside the books (even pre Disney) but not new to star wars I mean palps as a clone is not new.

    Also

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    Jumped to light speed through a Star Destroyer. That's about all that immediately comes to mind.
     
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    I've said it before and I wil lsay it again: If you ask me, the dirty, gritty gunslingers of Star Wars have always been the most interesting characters. Just my opinion. I am genuinely looking forward to Mandolorian season 2.

    Hope I see more of Gina Carano too. I would gladly "do squats" with her any day. :glee:
     
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    Wait. Does that make it worse? Not just that palpatine was a clone. But that Rey's father was a failed clone. So she isn't palpatines granddaughter.

    "This passage in the book reveals after Return of the Jedi, Palpatine "thrust his consciousness" into a clone body. However, "the transfer was imperfect" and members of the Sith Eternal worked tirelessly to engineer a new vessel for Palpatine's essence. One of these attempts is described as "a useless, powerless failure" who was "a not-quite-identical clone." While this body wasn't fit to house Palpatine's power, it was still able to live and eventually became Rey's father."
     
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    She can do squats on ma face! :glee::glee::glee:
     
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    Something about squats?

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    I am *convinced* that the only reason Disney bought the IP was because they hated it and they already had the couple of execs in place who really, really wanted to kill the IP.

    Then they did their best job they possibly could - trippy directors, goofy plots, political controversy, on and on while also making sure that anyone chosen to fail could not accidentally succeed by constantly derailing their work just to make sure.

    Yet the stakeholders do have a say and the Mandalorian slipped itself through some crack like only a Mandalorian bounty hunter can.

    For what it's worth, I really like Rogue One as a really nice piece of Fanfic but as far as Star Wars movies go, there are only 6 episodes and Disney is in it's entirety uncanonical.

    Heck, Disney could and possibly may buy the Papal State at some point and then swap all the crucifixes to Mickey Mouse heads and all but merely holding the IP won't make it so. Ultimately the people make up their own minds and even the immaterial property is simply a business contract on who gets to make profit using certain name and icons, the trademarked material.

    Nowhere does it say in a single law in any country that the holder of IP gets to say what you're supposed to think of the background of some character, his motivations or whether you accept Book 4 The Fall of the Brand as part of the canon.
     
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    That basically makes her his grand-niece. An imperfect genetic copy is basically a brother :p.
     
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    I mean, sure they have some serious flaws, but you can't seriously expect me to believe that you thought 1-3 were any better? Sure they came from Lucas but they also could have been done so much better in so many different directions it almost single handedly destroyed the series before Disney even got their hands on it. In fact, There was talks of making Spaceballs 2 once they released episode I and after the movie they just went away, Mel Brooks couldn't write a parody better than the movie was on itself :p.

    Write out the stupid plot holes and just general bad directing though and there's some good stuff in these movies. Could they have done better? Hell yes, and honestly I'm genuinely aggrieved that they chose to do things the way they did, however, I also kinda understand why they did. They needed to finish the house that Lucas built so they could move forward with other projects in the universe. Granted, they could have generated a bit less rancor in the process, but what would Star Wars be without them?
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    Edit: Technically Christianity passed into the public domain before the concept was really even conceived of, so no, Disney could not purchase the IP. They're free to make stories based on the stories and characters contained within, but hold no legal claims to the IP itself. Just like everyone else. This is the reason Disney pushed to extend the timeline of public domain. Plenty of Disney exclusive characters and stories would already have fallen into that realm by now.
     
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    :angryfap:
     
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    I will say 1-3 were better. Crappy dialogue (in places) aside, they had a coherent story line, a fantastic villain, and a consistent tone, plus better acting in most places. Hayden Christianson was the only weak part, and that was because whoever wrote his dialogue was a goober. When he isn't talking, he's damn good. I'll watch 1-3 any day of the week before going back to 7-9.