COMBINED CARS + MOTORCYCLES SUPER MEGA :awesome: THREAD

I also learned today at the dealer i went to, is that BMW is making a 300cc bike as well for the US market. everyone seems to be getting in on the 300cc craze right now. Suzuki doesnt have anything sporty yet. Now we just need aprilia to start making small engine bikes again and then ducati might get in on the action as well.

 

Long vid but really cool to see the engineering involved

 

Part 2

 

I'm applying tint film to rear windows of our Nissan Primera wagon and due to being busy I only had one window worked yesterday and was planning to finish the rest today.

It went quite smoothly and I felt I did everything right but today when I look at it the upper part of the tint film appears grayer or more reflective than the lower part of it - the lower part is darker and less reflective and there's an actual border between the lower part and upper part, the darker region taking some 30% of the surface.
What's worse is that the border is marked by actual spatula (splint?) drag shapes, rectangular shapes.

I wonder if I need to redo it or if it's only partially dried or if I did something wrong?

I cleaned the window
I cut the film roughly right, then I cut it into shape on the outside
I cleaned the window inside
I used plenty of the spray on both the window and on the film to make the spatula slide easier, I constantly reapplied more spray
I placed the film on the inside and worked out all the bubbles
I used heat gun to reveal any bumps and drove them out from the edges as taught

And it looked just fine.

And now it looks half this half that and the shade difference and border are visible even from an angle.

:edit:
Nevermind. Read up that it's normal part of it drying up, 'curing'.

 

So, the 24 Hours of Le Mans ended earlier today.

 

Holy shit....

"Why is the man in the video removing some kind of transparent layer from the tint film?...
...oh... fuck!"

Yup. I wonder how they stuck with the adhesive cover layer still on?

:edit:

At least I now know why the wrinkles were so difficult to get rid of... Yea.

And after being on for two days as if glued on they're now dropping off. Because there was no adhesive agent. Because the cover is still on...

 

Best. Racecar. Paint. EVER.

 

I saw a great article on Quora explaining the difference between spoilers and airfoils, how they work and how people mostly get them wrong.

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How much downward force does a spoiler produce, and is it significant enough to make a positive impact on acceleration?

Ryan Carlyle, BSChE, Subsea Hydraulics Engineer

To be blunt, most people putting body kits on consumer automobiles are scientifically-illiterate and have no idea what they're doing. The typical internet "collective wisdom" is shockingly stupid about this. While answering this question, I had serious trouble finding illustrations on Google image search that weren't wrong.

THIS IS WRONG:


Here's the crux of the issue: there is a HUGE difference between a "spoiler" and an "airfoil" or wing. They have different shapes and do different things.

An automotive airfoil is shaped like an upside-down airplane wing -- it deflects airflow upward to generate down-force on the rear of the vehicle. This does NOT particularly improve aerodynamics. In fact, an aggressive airfoil adds a substantial amount of drag, in exchange for more traction at high speeds. You see these on Formula 1 racecars, where unbanked racetracks make grip on corners critical to success:



Lots of airfoils working together in the rear wing:


Typical F1 down-force distribution:


Let me repeat it so it's clear: airfoils add drag, reducing your top speed and top-end acceleration. But at high speeds, they push the car down and add traction so you can turn faster. This is a trade-off.

Redbull gives you WINGS, not spoilers:


AIRFOILS ARE NOT SPOILERS AND SPOILERS ARE NOT AIRFOILS. Ok? Don't confuse the two, or you will look dumb on the internet.

So what the heck is a spoiler? It's an obstruction to localized airflow that improves theoverall airflow around a vehicle. Basically you're adding a barrier to a region of undesirable air behavior so the air will flow somewhere else.

The worst airflow a car sees is at its rear edge, where the shape of the vehicle pulls air downward (causing dangerous lift) and generates turbulent, low-pressure air pockets behind the vehicle (contributing to drag). Spoilers change that airflow.

When you look at NASCAR spoilers, you don't see a wing or a graceful ramp, you see a frickin' air-blocking wall at the tail of the car:



This air-blocking flap creates a relatively stagnant pocket of air (shown in green) between the rear window and spoiler:



This is where people's intuitive grasp of aerodynamics is wrong. Most folks think airflow exactly follows the surface contour. Even many auto-designers used to think that, until computational fluid dynamics and rigorous smoke-trace wind tunnel testing improved our understanding of airstream behavior. This is why so many older vehicles had idiotically-ineffective spoilers or wings. Like this dumb beauty:


The Plymouth Superbird --because cars that look like rocketships are awesome.

But in reality, fast-moving air doesn't like to enter blind pockets. Why should high-speed air follow an elaborate contour when it doesn't have to? The main airstream over a vehicle will flow around the obstruction without entering the blind pocket. Meaning the bulk of the airflow doesn't hit the spoiler so much as avoid it. Path of least resistance.

By preventing airflow from entering a region with an unfavorable body shape, the flow streams around the entire vehicle can be improved. Laminar airflow will avoid the obstruction, modifying the effective body shape, so a properly-designed spoiler can improve the drag coefficient of the vehicle even though it looks like a wall. That reduces drag and improves efficiency.

Naturally, this only works well if you do it right. As in, perform some CFD analysis and then prove up the design in a wind tunnel. Internet companies selling ridiculous body kits to "ricers" generally aren't doing a lot of that stuff.

Just to make it extra clear what I'm saying here: spoilers that stick up above the roof of the car are blisteringly stupid. They make the car's slipstream significantly larger and add a ton of drag. Don't be the guy with the idiotically-large spoiler. No good comes from that.

Here's more CFD, comparing a NASCAR spoiler (top) to a NASCAR wing (bottom). These were both designed by competent people. Blue is turbulence. You can see how the red laminar airstream avoids the spoiler, but hugs the wing:



Wings are designed to interact with a lot of air. Whereas spoilers are all about redirecting airflow away from the region where the spoiler sits. The bulk airflow isn't even supposed to hit them.

More CFD, showing the stagnant pocket (dark blue) in front of a spoiler (rear car) vs a wing (front car):


Of course, CFD is only moderately reliable. (Fluid dynamics are hard.) The proof is in the pudding. Here's a wind tunnel smoke trace over a well-designed spoiler on a Porsche:



You can see how the airflow is cleanly redirected from a downward direction (which generates undesirable lift) to a horizontal direction (no lift). Very little airflow goes underthe spoiler. It doesn't need to be shaped like a wing or deflect a lot of air. It just creates a little bit of a stagnant air pocket to deflect the main bulk of airflow.

Now compare to a typical sedan tail end:



See how the airflow expands and flows downwards as it exits the rear of the vehicle? This is producing lift as well as some extra drag. (The smoke expands as it slows down.) The faster the car goes, the more the rear end will try to lift off the ground. A good spoiler (or wing) reduces that up-lift.

To summarize:

• Both wings and spoilers reduce up-lift at the tail of the vehicle, but use different mechanisms.
• Wings are airfoils designed to directly deflect air upwards and thus push the rear of the vehicle down. They generally add quite a bit of drag.
• Spoilers are barricades to undesirable flows, and thus are able to reshape airflow streams around the vehicle. This can help keep the rear of the vehicle down anddecrease drag by changing the effective vehicle shape.
• You need computational fluid dynamics and/or wind tunnel testing to quantify spoiler/wing performance.
• Neither have any positive impact whatsoever on straight-line low-speed acceleration. Both are primarily intended to improve stability and cornering at high speeds.

Got it? Good. I'm tired of the internet being so consistently wrong about this.


https://www.quora.com/How-much-down...on-acceleration/answer/Ryan-Carlyle?srid=zfqv

 

spoilsport!

 

Yup. Aircraft have integrated dynamically adjustable spoilers in their wings for quite some time.

 

What is up with the amount of cars that are so lowered they are a inch off the ground, tires way to narrow for the wheel so they look like balls, and so much negative camber they ride on the side wall.

Is this the new car fad?

 

But I love Mini trucks.

 

Saw another one of those lowered cars today. From what ive gathered its called stanced?

this one takes the cake so far as ive seen alot of stupid crap lately with this fad but.

this was a newer model honda accord 4 door. Repainted yellow unless they come in yellow now. So besides being the usual ball shaped tires, way to much camber, and 1 inch off the ground. the guy cut the outer body panels of the wheel arches and into the wheel well so it could go as low as it was. The most disturbing thing was that between the body panels and arches was a 1 inch gap so you could see the frame of the car.

I almost wonder if they are trying to mimic older japanese cars that would cut the wheel arches and then put on fender flares. with that being said that was done to put 8 inch or wider wheels with appropriate sized tires. Like the nissan blue birds and S30Z's. I have a 73 S30z that im currently in the long term restoration process and will be putting on fender flares that at the time were nissan option parts in japan.

There is a huge difference between this crap...



and this

 

We have lots of speed bumps everywhere.

I was laughing my ass off watching some too much lowered car really struggling with the bumps and having to crawl over them diagonally. Then it stopped being fun and I was just pissed at the fucker for taking all day clearing a couple of bumps.