Gamma Lance "Midnight Oil"

Discussion in 'Lance Threads' started by Skwisgaar, Jul 16, 2012.

  1. Derak Darksun

    Derak Darksun Well Liked Thrall

    I thought we agreed that I would get dibs that one after our drop? I remember you were talking about upgrading your CRB to a higher tonnage? If that didn't pan out and you really want the Griffin instead, it's yours. I'll get my Shadow Hawk eventually. :)

    BTW, I've got enough XP saved up now to pick up Jumping Jack! Thought you guys should know since it's a major skill purchase. I'll actually be able to hit things now! yay! :viking:
     
  2. Sardonic

    Sardonic Well Liked Viking

    To be honest, that was long enough ago I have no idea what was said. If you want to snag it go for it. I can make due and overhaul the crab.
     
  3. Derak Darksun

    Derak Darksun Well Liked Thrall

    Lets get together in TS tonight and hash out what'll be best and most economical for both of us and the lance. I really don't care what 'Mech I'm piloting as long as we're playing cooperatively and having fun.
     
  4. Sardonic

    Sardonic Well Liked Viking

    Pssssht no need good sir. Go ahead and snag it. We'll put it this way: my crab has a nearly-identical load out to that griffin. The only thing I or the lance gain by me upgrading is more mobility due to the jjs. With you, we gain a hell of a lot more firepower when we swap out the panther. I can hold off for a few missions and then just upgrade the crab when I get more funds.
     
  5. MostlyHarmless

    MostlyHarmless Master of Recruits Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

    Well if Magnus scrounges enough money to buy that black knight then his older shadow hawk might be up for sale as well. If he doesn't buy the black knight then my thunderbolt will be up for sale.
     
  6. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

    just FYI: I won't be selling my Shaddyhack to get the BK. I will either be buying the BK outright and retain the SH as backup, or I won't buy anything. Will let you know soon.

    Also, be aware that costs for upgrades and unit tax will be changing. I can't confirm for sure what will be the best solution until I get the details ironed out. Again, will let you know very soon.

    Check here for details on the discussion:
    http://www.theskjaldborg.com/index.php?threads/unit-tax-and-upgrade-cost-evaluation.7421/
     
  7. Sardonic

    Sardonic Well Liked Viking

    Well, I doubt that it'll cost me more than it does now to upgrade a 50 tonner.
     
  8. Derak Darksun

    Derak Darksun Well Liked Thrall

    :awesome: Thanks man! Let me know how much you'll need for the upgrades, I've got enough for the Vash without the new tax rules and without our mission earnings, so I can spot you if you're short.
     
  9. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

    We may only have one of the custom Vash, but we have a boat load of upgraded Griffins. It wouldn't be too hard to replicate one.
     
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  10. Sardonic

    Sardonic Well Liked Viking

    Ah yes, but the vash is a straight line upgrade with what I had in mind. Same loadout and same specs. That means I buy the mech, and I'm done. With the others I would have to buy the mech and then retrofit. So, I'd be better off just retrofitting my current ride.

    Besides, then I get to keep the nifty lookin crab chassis. I just gotta hold out now for a gladiator or a dragon.

    ...or a devastator.
     
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  11. Sheogoraath

    Sheogoraath Worst Person in the Universe Viking

    Crabs should only ever be upgraded to King Crabs. You bring shame to your claws to do otherwise.
     
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  12. Sardonic

    Sardonic Well Liked Viking

    If a king crab could move at a 5/8, I'd be inclined to agree. If I wanted to move at 3/5, I'd get a Devastator.
     
  13. Sheogoraath

    Sheogoraath Worst Person in the Universe Viking

    you keep spelling King Crab wrong so I fixed it for you.
     
  14. Trevnor

    Trevnor Tokin' Canadian Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

    I'm with Sardonic on this one, Sheo. Devastators are the way to go for something 3/5
     
  15. Dihm

    Dihm Speaker of the Word Staff Member Gothi SC Thane

    Lies and slander
     
  16. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

    (false prophet!)

    ehem...

    Don't mind Delta... they only wish to spread the word of His crabby goodness. ;)
     
  17. Sheogoraath

    Sheogoraath Worst Person in the Universe Viking

    took me, what, four campaigns, selling my CRB and borrowing a crapload of money to buy a mech literally half the cost of a Devastator? You go ahead and let me know when you've collected the 22 million you need for that bad boy, I'll let you know what Delta's accumulated in the mean-time.


    unless you're talking about the 1D Devastator, in which case I scoff. scoff scoff scoff.
     
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  18. Sardonic

    Sardonic Well Liked Viking

    A DVS-1D would cost far less than a DVS-2, and be right on par with the cost of a KC-010. You're looking at 4ml, a couple of large lasers, and AC10s. Sure it's not a pair of PPCs, or LBXs, but the relative increase in range/firepower is slim at that point. Aside from that, a retrofit to get to a DVS-2-esque model is a lot less than you think.

    The majority of that enormous bill for the DVS-2 comes from the 300 XL, which I never put in in the first place for the sake of battlefield longevity. That being removed, it's a rather equal cost-comparison. I'll take a pair of gauss rifles over a pair of lbx 10s on a 3/5 assault any day of the week.
     
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  19. Trevnor

    Trevnor Tokin' Canadian Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

    And, just so you know, Devastator is my long long term goal for these campaigns. It's why I'm focusing on the PH right now, simply because it's a good machine and I'm comfortable with it. Once my pilot get's 1/2 or 1/1 skills, plus a slight re-configuration of his skills, he'll be pretty fucking deadly behind the controls of that beast. Might be a bit pricey, but I'm not really spending my money on much else.