What kind of immortality would you rather come true?

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  1. SheepHugger

    SheepHugger Well Liked Viking

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    Brain problems are complex and often caused from elsewhere in the body and obviously lifestyle also has an impact.

    Since many species have been proven to live over 200 years I don't think 100+ is 'old' for a neuron. So, as long as you don't get alzheimer's or some such you're good to go. Note that many people never get those diseases even with old age - a lot of actual problems come from the body and supporting organs becoming .. brittle and impotent and providing the brain with what it needs. Also, things like the longer you live the more likelier you are to catch cancer or something else that we can't cure is a big thing.

    Neurodegenerative diseases could be easy to fix if we only knew exactly what happens with the disease and how to counter that effect.

    But with my limited understanding of biology I don't see the aging of brain as the biggest issue, at least not initially. It could take hundreds of years before being stuck with same neurons presented a problem.

    So what I'm trying to say is a lot of the time when we think there's something wrong with the brain, it's actually because body, the life support system of brain, is failing.

    Well, I was thinking along the lines of the head itself being an advanced casing for the brain with sensor interfaces and hatches for the life support tubes. Because scooping the brain out and so is complicated and preferably done only once - preferably when they're inserted to a 'permanent' head unit that has all those cool features such as easy standardized 'head link'.

    It is pretty amazing stuff that could be achieved like that. Imagine flying a fighter but feeling the fighter's hull, engines, sensors and weapons as your body, feeling the Sun on the hull etc., feeling how parts bend in tight turns etc.

    "This is the Ship (person) speaking. We'll be arriving on Jupiter's orbit momentarily, prepare for final maneuvers".
     
  2. Hakija

    Hakija Chaos Pony Viking

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    That's exactly how the drone control rig in the Shadowrun RPG works. Riggers tend to be odd people though. It takes a certain type of person to be completely comfortable in such a different body.
     
  3. Trevnor

    Trevnor Tokin' Canadian Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    Stumbled across this little gem while browsing the web today. Reminded me of this conversation.
     
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  4. Hakija

    Hakija Chaos Pony Viking

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    I like the line where she says "I just wanted to say I told you so.". That is quite possibly the most fundamental of all human needs. We just can't seem to get past having to do that.

    I know it's a small talking point, but does it really matter, after some horrible disaster has occurred, that you take extra effort to find someone for the sole purpose of telling them that you saw this coming and they didn't? Is it really so important that they suffer more than they probably already are if they're the cause and they know it?
     
  5. Hepatitis TK

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    What kind of immortality do I want?!?!
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    ...The sparkly kind!

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  6. StalaggtIKE

    StalaggtIKE Well Liked Viking

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  8. SteelBear

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    Can I cast my vote for the immortality of Valhalla?
     
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  9. Hollister

    Hollister Fun-Taker Berserker

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    Why not vampires where everyone looks like a model, love triangles, and incest.

     
  10. j.p.

    j.p. Well Liked Berserker

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    Man why's immortality always gotta come with weird-ass baggage? Just once can't it be "Hey guess what! You're immortal now! Have fun!"
     
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  11. SteelBear

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    Because Valhalla.

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  12. Hollister

    Hollister Fun-Taker Berserker

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    There's got be a give and take relationship otherwise stuff gets out of balance. you want to be immortal vampire, well you better have the stomach for porking your sister.
     
  13. j.p.

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    Aw man... I think maybe we should not let Japan be in charge of vampires anymore.
     
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  14. Hollister

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    I can't fully recall but I believe there parents were siblings as well. Something about keeping the royal bloodline as pure as possible.
     
  15. SheepHugger

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    Like pharaohs.

    I still prefer Valhalla. You get to swing an axe and furious attempt suffices for a ticket to Mead Hall eternal!

    Very unlike pop history where "oh, these guys were the real champions, they had 30:1 the troops and the opposite side didn't have any ranged weapons. The opposite side that lost were obviously poor warriors on personal level and all of the winners were incredibly brave and superior humans".

    In other words, popular history only remembers winners. Even if the winners were worse in every way and the other side lost because a frickin meteor hit their capital while their whole army was amassed there. It seems like people have this compelling need to "no, it couldn't have been just the asteroid. This Warrior Society was in every way worse warriors and a society than the mudcrabs that later settled the crater".

    The predestination/fatalism bullshit, "if you win the accusing party in a duel then it means you didn't murder his father".

    TL;DR

    Valhalla! Mead!
     
  16. SheepHugger

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    http://www.newscientist.com/article...t-could-happen-in-two-years.html#.VO8yqPmsUrU

    First human head transplant could happen in two years



    You can tell he's italian by his comparison of spinal cord attachment to spaghetti.
     
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  17. fluffypinkbunny

    fluffypinkbunny Fluffiest Bunny ever Viking

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    I would personally like to have my information downloaded to the internet, either as an avatar, or just become part of the internet, I would spend time researching how to do this better, so the next person can be downloaded better, and maybe I would work on a real world android so I can physically manipulate things in the world. With the power of the internet, I would also try to make the world a better place, but we all know that would fail.
     
  18. SheepHugger

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    Also, subtle things like minor changes to phrasing on messages people send to each other online, marginally adjusting the collective behavior.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Warwick

    The guy who pioneered things like using nervous system to control robotic arm, then doing the same except the arm was in a different city and sent back touch sensation so he felt how much pressure he was applying with the robotic arm.

    Also attached him to his wife's nervous system.

    But yea, surrogate robots is the way to go. I would like to be located in some bunker and try to own as many surrogate robots as possible. I'd program them AI's and routines and manually assume control when necessary.

    I can see how at some point we could have people who specialized in manually controlling multiple robots simultaneously. Kind of like playing Starcraft competitively eh?
     
  19. Hakija

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    Then South Korea realizes it's secret ambitions to conquer the world and declare everyone to be second-class noobs.
     
  20. SheepHugger

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    South Korea issued a statement to everyone else:
    "Not all of you may be peasants but you're all a bunch of noobs. AYBABTU"