CHARACTER CONVERSION

THIS IS ONLY FOR PLAYERS WITH CHARACTERS FROM THE PREVIOUS SKJALDBORG CAMPAIGN.

IF YOU ARE A NEW PLAYER YOU DO NOT NEED TO SUBMIT ANY INFO HERE!

RULING ON PRIMARY SKILL COSTS:
-costs of old and new systems have NOT changed.
-full XP reimbursement

RULING ON SECONDARY SKILL COSTS:
-some costs have changed; individual levels are more expensive now, but now there is only 6 levels instead of 8 (for some). total cost to max out is roughly the same.
-old skills up to level three are "grandfathered in" (old level 3 = new level 3).
-any old levels after that are reimbursed for their OLD XP cost

RULING ON ABILITY COSTS
-ability costs have changed
-full XP reimbursement

RULING ON OWNED UNIT CONVERSION
-non-mech pilots can start with a mech equal to or less than the value of their former ride OR anything up to 4 million Cbills.
-for mech pilots: this offer applies ONLY to your starter mech and ONLY if you still own it yourself (example: salvaged mechs are NOT covered for this)
-your starter mech MUST be from the Introductory Tech pool.
-if you are claiming a portion of former "lance funding", any leftover cash after purchasing your starter mech CANNOT be pocketed (you already got that back once).
-only AFTER you have selected a starter mech can you apply any additional funds your character has to pay for any upgrades as usual using the new upgrade system.

ALL changes are subject to review and must be approved by a GM!

IF YOU ARE GOING TO USE YOUR OLD CHARACTER, PLEASE POST YOUR CHANGES BELOW. BE SURE TO INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING:
-old character stats
-what you are changing and how much it costs
-new character stats

Here's a good example:

List of players who have completed character conversion:
-Skwisgaar
-Tzeentch
-Dihm
-Trevnor
-Val
-David (pending secondary approval)
-Ghiest
-Sheogarath (pending secondary approval)
-Orcinus (pending secondary approval)
-Axevid
-Gihzmo (pending secondary approval)


Pending Approval:
-Killbox
-Barbie
-Hordac

NOTE: If you make last minute changes please make a NEW post! DO NOT EDIT OLD POSTS!!!

 

OLD

Refund Tactics from Lvl 5 to Lvl 3
Level 5 cost: 14
Level 4 cost: 10

Refund Leadership from Lvl 5 to Lvl 3
Level 5 cost: 14
Level 4 cost: 10

Refund Natural Aptitude, Gunnery
Cost: 32

Exp refunded: 80
Exp total: 96

Primary Skills:
Piloting/Mech Lvl 5 (Target roll >/= 3) - 15
Gunnery/Mech Lvl 5 (Target roll >/= 2) - 19

Secondary Skills:
Small Arms/Self Defense Lvl 3 (Target roll >/= 4) - 3
Leadership Lvl 4 - 16

Abilities:
Sniper - 32
Maneuvering Ace - 8

Exp Remaining: 3

NEW

 

Old:

Work Sheet:

New:

:cmonster:

Ready to fucking rock and roll!

 

um... i think you are forgetting a few other factors involved here:

1) XL Engines are not a straight 1:1 cost regardless of rating. The 190 XL you had on your VTOL is WAY cheaper than on a mech. To put it in comparison, for the same tonnage and speed you would need a 330 XL in a mech.

2) old non-mech characters may pick a new starter mech that is EQUAL TO OR LESS THAN THE COST OF THEIR OLD RIDE or 4 million C-bills... your choice.
List of all vehicles we owned that were above 4 million (rounded to nearest 100k):
-Harbinger P MkIII = 4.4 million
-Harbinger R MkIII = 4.5 million
-Harbinger S MkIII = 4.4 million
(yeah.. its a short list)

and for the record, old mech pilots must follow the same rules except they are limited to trading in ONLY starter mechs... not whatever cool mechs they've bought/salvaged since then.

3) it is actually MORE fair if everyone starts with an introductory mech. Otherwise, it will be too easy to start with DHS and Endo Steel (both are VERY powerful updgrades) which I have purposefully made more difficult to get (as they should be). They are advanced tech you need to earn. The VTOLs were different in that they needed an extreme buff to make them even a viable option for regular players. Also, VTOLS are WAAAAY cheaper. Comparing them to mechs on any sort of 1:1 basis is a case of comparing apples to oranges. If you want to start with DHS, I suggest you save back enough TP to equip them after buying your starter mech. Same for an XL Engine... although I REALLY don't recommend it.

4) as mentioned earlier, VTOLs still kind of suck in general. don't get me wrong... they have their place, but they are incapable of outright replacing mechs. chances are good even a well designed intro tech mech is overall a better warmachine than a VTOL. that's just the reality in the battletech universe. "the cool toys" you had before were there to make piloting a VTOL not a completely horrible experience for you... to put it simply, you VTOL guys were spoiled compared to the rest of us who had to slum it early on in our starter mechs. so yeah... its VERY FAIR.

There are more reasons as well, but I don't want to make this post any longer. feel free to catch me on TS if you need more explaination.

I've spent a lot of time trying to come up with the best solution possible and so far I haven't heard any other complaints. "Unfair" seems the exact opposite of what I've done for you guys.

 

You are ignoring a lot of facts (like all those mechs they salvaged but still have to BUY from the unit garage). Again, you are comparing apples to oranges. I will say nothing more on the matter here. I've given you plenty of very valid reasons why. If you care to discuss it more, do it with me on TS.

 

Started double checking math today.

SKWISGAAR:

XP REALLOCATION CHECKED!

CHARACTER APPROVED!

NOTE: Skwi, can you confirm if it is 5 XP or 10 XP that you have remaining? There was a little discrepancy between that with the OP.

 

TZEENTCH:

XP REALLOCATION CHECKED!

CHARACTER APPROVED!

NOTE: Tzeetch.. you had a Harbinger worth 4.5 million. that gives you a larger cap for your starter mech than what would be normally available. make sure you take that into account. Submit your changes in a new post below.

 

DIHM

XP REALLOCATION CHECKED!

CHARACTER APPROVED!

NOTE: You cannot claim the Warhammer as your own until you have paid for it (although we can reserve it for you). I'm still sorting out the economy side of things. Will let you know as that develops. Be sure to submit changes in a new post below.

 

AXEVID:

PENDING

NOTE: In order to take Natural Aptitude you must have a pilot that is below veteran level (the ability is intended for players who wish to focus on secondary skills). Submit your changes in a new post below.

 

HORDAC:

PENDING

NOTE: I recommend completely refunding Admin and then swapping Leadership for the Admin skill. this may sound like an odd way of doing things, but you will have an overall net gain of XP this way since individual levels are more expensive than they were before (the reasons for this are too complicated to explain here, trust me on this). The XP refunded for Leadership is also off (should be 7, 5, 4, and 14 for training cost; looks like you confused it for the new figures)... although this is a moot point if you take my above advice. Tactics lvl 4 Xp count is correct though.

Be sure to post changes in a new post below.

 

TREVNOR:

XP REALLOCATION CHECKED!

CHARACTER APPROVED!