CHARACTER CONVERSION

Discussion in 'Campaign - Skjaldborg Saga' started by MagnusEffect, Apr 2, 2013.

  1. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    ORCINUS:

    Redone and fixed:

    LEVEL 5 Piloting/Aerospace converted to Piloting/Mech (no additional cost)
    LEVEL 4 Gunnery/Aerospace converted to Gunnery/Mech (no additional cost)

    LEVEL 1 Tech/Aero from Lvl 1 to 0
    Lvl 1 cost = 10 XP
    Training cost = 20 XP
    Refund = +30 XP
    STRONGLY RECOMMEND CONVERTING THIS TO ANOTHER SECONDARY SUPPORT SKILL RATHER THAN XP REIMBURSEMENT!
    (depending on which lance you join)


    You forgot you have Tactics 4:
    Level 4 -> Level 3
    Refund = +14 XP

    Refund Maneuvering Ace
    Refund = +16 XP

    Previously owned XP = +5

    Total refund: 65 XP (or 35 depending on what is done with Tech/Aero)

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    New System Purchasing:

    Small Arms to lvl 3
    Training cost = 11 XP
    Lvl 1 cost = 1 XP
    Lvl 2 cost = 2 XP
    Lvl 3 cost = 3 XP
    (wise choice)

    Tactics from lvl 3 to lvl 4
    Lvl 4 cost = 16 XP

    Maneuvering Ace
    Cost = 8 XP

    Total purchases = 35 XP

    Remainder XP = 30 (or zero depending)

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    NOTE: Still need your imput on what you want to convert Tech/Aero into. You will need one of the other support skills depending on which lance you join... you may also want to redistribute some XP depending on conditions. Post any changes below in a new post.
     
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  2. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    MAGNUSEFFECT: (finally)

    Reimbursement:

    Primary Skills
    same cost / no changes

    Secondary Skills
    Small Arms = same cost / no changes
    Tactics 5 -> 3 = +24 XP
    Leadership 4 -> 3 = +10 XP

    Abilities
    Sniper = same cost / no changes

    Former remaining XP = 12

    New XP total = 46

    ===========

    New additions:

    Secondary Skills
    Small Arms = same cost / no changes
    Tactics 3 -> 4 = 16 XP
    Leadership 3 -> 4 = 16 XP

    Remaining XP = 14

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    New stats:

    Gunnery = Level 5
    Piloting = Level 5
    Small Arms = Level 4
    Tactics = Level 4
    Leadership = Level 4

    Abilities:
    Sniper
    (3 slots remaining)

    Remaining XP = 14
     
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  3. Kith Kinda

    Kith Kinda New Guy Thrall

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    Magnus. What do you want us newbies to do to get our character's approved?

    and I believe you said something about creating another folder on dropbox for customized mechs for this campaign or something???
     
  4. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    Updated "RULING ON OWNED UNIT CONVERSION" to account for VTOL and tanker characters that had no lance funding data (they were essentially starting off broke). Check OP for new changes. These changes should give them a little more flexibility in terms of starting funds.


    Drop it here (which you have already done):
    http://www.uobgaming.com/showthread.php?1713-Post-your-character-info!/page3

    also, i need to add you guys to the dropbox shared folder. send me your email next time you see me on TS.
     
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    Axevid Made Some Friends Viking

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    Update:

    OLD:
    Name Change: Asleikr Kirves

    Refund Natural Aptitude Gunnery 32 XP

    New Total 38 XP

    Buy Sniper 32 XP

    Remaining 6 XP

    NEW:

     
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    Dihm Speaker of the Word Staff Member Gothi SC Thane

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    99% sure we did pay for it from our funds, will try to track it down.
     
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    Hordac New Guy Thrall

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    Could not follow the logic trail there at all, so I just switched out the (7, 5, 4, and 14 for training cost) area and redid the stuff below. Lost Jumping Jill and Small Arms 4.

    _____OLD STATS_____
    9xp already had

    Piloting VTOl lvl 6
    Gunnery VTOl lvl 5

    Small Arms lvl 3
    Admin lvl 2
    Tactics lvl 4
    Leadership lvl 3

    No Abilities

    - - -Conversion Worksheet- - -
    - -Primary Skills- -
    Refund for Piloting VTOL lvl6 to 0
    lvl 6 - 22
    lvl 5 - 15
    lvl 4 - 10
    lvl 3 - 7
    lvl 2 - 5
    lvl 1 - 4
    Training - 14

    Refund for Gunnery Vehicle lvl 5 to 0
    lvl 5 - 15
    lvl 4 - 10
    lvl 3 - 7
    lvl 2 - 5
    lvl 1 - 4
    Training - 14

    Total Primary Refunded - 132


    -New Primary Costs-

    Lvl 0-5 Piloting - 55xp
    lvl 0-5 Gunnery - 79xp

    Total Primary XP - (-2)



    - -Secondary Skills- -

    Refund for Leadership lvl 3 - lvl 0
    Lvl3 cost - 7
    Lvl2 cost - 5XP
    Lvl1 cost - 4XP
    Training cost - 14XP

    Refund Tactics from Lvl 4 to Lvl 3
    Lvl 4 cost - 10XP


    Total Secondary refunded - 40


    -New Secondary Costs-

    Tactics lvl 4 - 16

    Total Secondary XP - 24


    --Total XP-- 24 + 9 from old build = 33xp


    - - Abilities - -

    Sniper - 32xp


    1 xp left over


    ____New Stats______

    Piloting Mech lvl 5
    Gunnery Mech lvl 5

    Small Arms lvl 3
    Tactics lvl 4
    Admin lvl 2

    Sniper
     
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  8. Sheogoraath

    Sheogoraath Worst Person in the Universe Viking

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    sent you the updates to my fella in PM
     
  9. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    If you ever get around to talking to me on TS, I would be happy to explain further. :)
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    AXEVID:

    XP REALLOCATION CHECKED!

    CHARACTER APPROVED!
     
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  11. David Hawk RavenWater

    David Hawk RavenWater New Guy Thrall

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    Old Character:

    Gunnery Level 4
    Piloting Level 6
    small arms Level 4
    tactics Level 4

    Abilities:
    hot dog
    multi tasker
    Gunnery Laser
    Weapon Spec LL

    xp:5

    New

    Conversion History:
    "fathered" XP: 130

    Gunnery Level 3 ---->4: -14XP
    Piloting Level 3 --->5: -25XP
    small arms Level 3----->3: 0XP
    tactics Level 3---->3: 0XP
    added Administration Level 2: -41XP

    Abilities:

    Multi-Tasker: -8XP
    Weapon Specialization: -16XP
    Gunnery Specialization: -16XP

    Remaining XP: 10

    Thanks goes to Crave for helping me rebuild the character.
     
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  12. Orcinus

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    For some reason it seems that the character sheet I have saved is way out of date and I don't have a copy reflecting these new changes.
    With that in mind, I'll choose Leadership as my first secondary of choice since that's what I had on my old character sheet (can be changed per lance reqs).

    Just to be sure, however, I would like to see the full character sheet you have for my character, if at all possible.
     
  13. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    Repost for Sheo:

    Stats at end of Operation Descending Fire:
    Level 4 Gunnery
    Level 4 Piloting
    Level 2 Small Arms
    Level 4 Tactics
    Level 4 Negotiation
    Natural Apt.
    Dodge
    Remaining XP: 11


    I don't think the math on that is quite right. This is what I got:

    XP Refunds:
    Tactics 4->3 = +10 XP
    Negotiation 4->3 = +10 XP
    Natural Apt = +32 XP
    Dodge = +8 XP

    Total remaining XP after refunds = 71 XP

    New Stats:
    Level 4 Gunnery
    Level 4 Piloting
    Level 2 Small Arms
    Level 3 Tactics
    Level 3 Negotiation

    Remaining XP: 71
    (the 71 XP will get you most of the changes above, but not all)
     
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  14. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    A bit here that was missing. Here's what I came up with:

    Stats at end of Operation Descending Fire:
    Gunnery 5
    Piloting 5
    Small Arms 4
    Tactics 4
    Hot Dog
    Multitasker
    Weapon Spec
    Gunnery Spec (David's a cheater!) ;)
    Remaining XP: 5

    Refunds:
    Gunnery 5->3 = +33 XP
    Piloting 5->3 = +25 XP
    Small Arms 4->3 = +7 XP
    Tactics 4->3 = +10 XP
    Hot Dog = +8 Xp
    Multitasker = +8 XP
    Weapon Spec = +12
    Gunnery Spec = +12

    Total XP Refunds = 115 XP

    Final Stats after conversion:
    Gunnery 3
    Piloting 3
    Small Arms 3
    Tactics 3
    Remaining XP: 120

    (highly recommend you grab another Secondary skill)

    NOTE: you can't use both weapon spec and gunnery spec (check the rules on abilities in the skillsheet; you can only use ONE "Gunnery Ability"). to do so would break the balance of the game. let me know what you want to do instead.

    EDIT: apparently mekHQ wont let you have more than 100 XP at a time so I bumped Gunney and Piloting up to Level 4 and you now have 96 XP remaining.
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    @ ORC

    I messed up on the previous assessment (got Tactics and Small Arms wrong).

    Redone and fixed (2nd attempt!):
    Tactics
    Level 4 -> Level 3
    Refund = +10 XP

    Refund Maneuvering Ace
    Refund = +16 XP

    Previously owned XP = +5

    Total XP: 31
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    New System Purchasing:

    Small Arms to lvl 3
    Training cost = 11 XP
    Lvl 1 cost = 1 XP
    Lvl 2 cost = 2 XP
    Lvl 3 cost = 4 XP

    Total purchases = 18 XP

    Total XP remaining = 13
    (spend however you wish)

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    Are you intending to lead a lance? If not, it might be better we hold off on what secondary skill you take for now until we get a better idea of how we are setting up our lance structure. In the meantime, i will make the other changes and leave the remaining XP in your pool to spend later as needed.

    There is a new MekHQ file available in the normal dropbox location, but it is already out of date. Stay tuned and I will have an updated file available later this week.
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    Updated list in OP:

    List of players who have completed character conversion:
    -Skwisgaar
    -Tzeentch
    -Dihm
    -Trevnor
    -Val
    -David (pending secondary approval)
    -Ghiest
    -Sheogarath (pending secondary approval)
    -Orcinus (pending secondary approval)
    -Axevid
    -Gihzmo (pending secondary approval)


    Pending Approval:
    -Killbox
    -Barbie
    -Hordac


    NOTE: If you are "pending secondary approval", that means your character is more or less done, but you either have a large amount of unspent XP or may need to adjust your secondary skills later once we get our lance structure sorted out.

    The following need to get in touch with me to go over their character more in detail:
    -Killbox
    -Barbie
    -Hordac
     
  17. Skwisgaar

    Skwisgaar XO Thrall

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    REQUESTING MECH REFIT

    Now that financials for Delta lance are finalized, I'd like to spend my 2 TP to refit Eastwood. The work involves replacing the PPC with an ERPPC, upgrading to double heat sinks and adding 1 ton of armor. This will leave me with 0 TP and 0 CBills.

    I uploaded the new .mtf file to the Submitted Designs/Delta Lance folder on the dropbox, if you have trouble finding it let me know and I'll try again tonight. It should be labelled "Clint CLNT-2-3P Eastwood".
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    Bad news:
    replacing PPC, adding heatsinks, and adding armor = 2 TP
    switching to double heatsinks = 2 TP

    that would be 4 TP (or 2 million) total in upgrades

    Good news:
    I may have been over zealous in making the DHS upgrade a more expensive endeavor. Since the DHS swap is its own thing, I'm considering dropping the price on it. Send me a PM or catch me on TS to give me your input. DON'T GIVE IT HERE!
     
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  19. Skwisgaar

    Skwisgaar XO Thrall

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    I'll give you my input right here.

    Poo. Utter poo.

    (check your PMs for a less fecally focused response)
     
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  20. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    [issue resolved] :)