Odd PC power.

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    So my computer is doing something odd where I press the power button and it turns on then off before it can boot. But if I press it again after it boots up just fine. I did recently upgrade to windows 10 but I don't think it is software related. I'm guessing the power supply or the power button itself is the issue. Any guesses or tips to check? It is about 3-4 years old since I built it.
     
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    You may be tripping a soft reset breaker (means it resets itself when it loses power) due to cold power up. Could mean the power supply is on the verge of dying. It could also just be either a mechanical or electrical quirk in the switch itself. Switch is a relatively easy replace, I'd just try it with any other switch you know is good before going out of your way to replace it. Really don't even need a switch, it's just cleaner and you are less likely to accidentally short something else.

    If it turns out to be the former I wouldn't put to much effort into trying to fix it, power supply are not -that- expensive, and unless you can easily identify the faulty component it's going to burn a lot of time pulling it apart and repairing it and odds are pretty good that it's only a bandaid, if it's tripping a soft reset it either means the breaker was already bad, or the power supply efficiency is deteriorating and it's demanding more to perform the same work. There's a number of parts that could cause this over time, and honestly you could buy a high end power supply for the amount of time and money you might end up sinking into it.
     
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    Is it consistently doing it every single time you start up? Does it ever turn off while using? If its literally a quirk at start up every single time I'd guess power supply, but if its not only that it could be other things as well. For example, I had similar issues where sometimes my computer wouldn't start up, it would start, then immediately turn off. I'd have to wait a while before retrying and it would start just fine. I thought it was the power supply, turned out to be a bad memory card.
     
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    Pretty much everyday. Only turns off randomly if I accidentally unplug the power strip (outlet in the wall is right where my feet are). It didn't start doing this till after I upgraded to windows 10 about a month ago.

    Haven't yet looked in the case yet to see if maybe a cable is touching something or if I can spot anything.

    It's just odd that it turns off before even bios starts up. And then if I turn it back on a second or two later it boots up just fine. It's not restarting. It turns off.

    For all I know maybe something just came loose. Or I need to clean dust out.
     
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    Given that it only happens on boot and only once I'd be tempted to lean towards cold boot issues. You may not need to do anything, as long as it continues to work after the initial hiccup, however it'd be a good time to be prepared at least to replace the PS should it crap out entirely. It -could- still be the switch, without knowing the details on the type of switch and the design therein it's difficult to rule it out without actually removing and trying another one. Cleaning is generally worth a shot, if nothing else you reduce heat buildup. Really you got a couple options at this point, switch some things around and see what happens, or just wait and see. All considered I'd probably just wait, right now it's little more than an annoyance at best. If you go digging there's a not 0 chance you might cause a failure when otherwise it might have been fine.
     
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    I mean since it's 4 years old already (built it in 2016 and probably with stuff that came out a year or two at least before that) it's probably time I start looking at upgrading some parts. One being the power supply. 550 watts is probably a little low. Huh. Now that I think about it, it did start shortly after I added 2 more sticks of RAM. I wonder if it's just not enough power? It is reading all 16 GB of RAM. PS and graphics card are the only two things I think I need to upgrade (and adding a 2nd/3rd hard drive. I have a SS for the OS and a 1 TB for everything else but That is mostly used up.) graphics is a geforce gtx 950 2 GB.

    https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-ga-970a-d3p/p/N82E16813128627?Item=N82E16813128627

    https://www.newegg.com/amd-fx-8000-...dition/p/N82E16819113284?Item=N82E16819113284
     
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    Memory isn't very power intensive but its easy to check if you pull out the new sticks.
     
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    550 is a bit on the lean side for any kind of gaming, you'd probably need to upgrade anyway if you step up your graphics. Ram is unlikely to impact your boot sequence, but if you're on the edge of your power threshold it'll do some funny things sometimes particularly cold boot and when you start to stress the system.
     
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    Think I got it. It was warmer over the past few days and it didn't have that issue at all. I think it was just so cold that it was having issues heating up (or staying running). Well till today. But it has gotten below 30 the past 2 nights.
     
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    Huh. Could it be a failing graphics card? I just put a wireless network card in to replace my old USB wireless adapter and noticed my graphics card seemed to come loose (as in I could push it down and it clicked into place on the motherboard.) Also one of the fans on the graphics card is wobbling and not consistent.It slows down and speeds up more like it is losing power (the fan not the card). The other fan on the card is running fine. I do hear a kindof of grinding sound when the bad fan turns off which I assume is the wobble causing it to hit the sides of the card.

    Unless there is a way to reseat/tighten the fan.

    Edit: thats not good. That fan completely stopped. I might as well just get a new card since it is a GTX 950.
     
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    Yea if your graphics card is breaking or loose it can definitely mess with BIOS / booting.
     
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    And now that fan is running fine and not wobbling. What the heck. Still worrying that it came out of the socket a bit and the fan was wobbling. Since it a gtx 950 and old (4 years since I got it) I went and ordered a 1650 super. Figured if I might need to replace it I might as well upgrade a bit as well.