Harmony Gold being Harmony Gold (again)

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  1. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    Robotech fans are either retarded or simply ignorant of what they are missing. Developmentally speaking, Robotech is a dead end. HG has neither the ability nor drive to expand its doppleganger universe. Robotech fans need to understand they are better off with HG out of the picture because then they can get all the Macross they have been missing.

    It's like someone preferring fucking Go-bots more than Transformers. It's tragically poor taste.
     
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    Hakija Chaos Pony Viking

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    Are there still any hardcore robotech fans? I understand when that was all you could get, but Macross has been available with subtitles now for years.
     
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    Watching robotech will drain you because of the amount of stupidity they had to do into some how forging three separate shows into one. which is why things are confusing and stupid at times. It is best to watch the shows in the original format as actual separate pieces and not HG butchered up mess.

    most people understand what HG did and have moved on.

    but dont stop fretting just yet because it gets better.

    Netflix is trying to follow in HG foot steps with anime and doing the same crap HG did in the 80's.. but doing it in todays time.

    the first trial was with Smile Pretty Cure. which is a bishojou senshi show (pretty warrior) like sailor moon. they took it and chopped it all up and slapped a new title name with changing all the characters names, then netflix stamped there name on it with calling it there "original work".. which is total bs.

    now they just seem to snatch up distribution rights to specific shows they know will sell good because of ratings from mangas and light novels that get made into anime with then stamping there name on it with also calling it.. a... "Netflix Original". which is also total bullshit because all they did was buy distribution rights and that is it. the latest victim to this was Violet Evergarden which was created by two Japanese women and would go on to win a lot of awards with the light novel. But dont tell that to netflix that just slapped a logo on it calling it there own work. which they can go eat a giant donkey dick for that mentality
     
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    Netflix original really only means that it is only available on Netflix, and that it is not the actual original. Yes, I agree it is contrived, but I expect they did it because people were really getting angry at the term 'exclusive' when it comes to these pocket providers, though they may not have realized how they deflected one group only to rouse another. *shrug*
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    As far as I know, Netflix doesn't have exclusivity on distribution either, only online streaming. They have no interest in selling DVDs so I'm pretty sure you can still get them from other places.
     
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    They do simulcasting for most unless you live in the US or Canada. Then they wait till the entire show has gone through its pacing and then put it all up at once because people only seem to binge watch stuff here.

    My main problem with Netflix is that they change anime just like what HG did with Macross.

    If they could swipe naruto it would probably end up like this. Naruto being named Jeffery, sasuke would be Steven and Sakura would be Susan. And the show would be named, The adventures of Jeffery the wonder kid.
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    Fuck yes. Some good news finally. If HBS won, I can't imagine why PGI won't unless their judge wants to be a dick about it (they have two seperate judges, right?). I know HBS and PGI are pretty much working in tandem on this.

    Also, for anyone who doesn't know, "with prejudice" means Harmony Gold can't try this shit again. :D
     
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    I think same judge for the whole thing. It appears HBS and HG basically came to a settlement and HG agreed to have their argument against HBS dismissed. So HBS does still have to pay the court fees but that is it. With HBS they were arguing the atlas, locusts and shadowhawk were stolen from robotech macross saga.
     
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    So what's the argument against PGI, all of the unseen?
     
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    But... they don't even look like anything from Macross that I'm aware of.
     
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    Nope. Their argument against HBS was really weak. This is what they were saying was infringing (pics from the actual court document).

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    This basically means the locust, atlas, and shadowhawk are safe. HBS still couldn't put in the marauder and warhammer in till the PGI part is over. And those HG actually has the right mech to the right macross art. Also contesting the rifleman. Don't remember if that was supposed to be in battletech.

    I think the HG lawyers just got overzealous with HBS. Pretty sure they got fired. Because holy shit that is a reach.
     
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    But... that's basically comparing the Locust to the Maraduer, and the SH to the fucking Archer. Jesus christ what is wrong with HG.
     
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    Right? I feel like on the HBS side of the case they (HG) got so used to the little guys just folding they just went "oh look someone is making a battletech game. Let's sue/threaten them and make easy money".

    Because if HG won that one could basically say all mechs are infringing just because they have the same basic shape.
     
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    I still feel that the HBS case, since it called out Jordan Weisman specifically was basically personal.
     
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    Pretty much what I was thinking too. I think HG knew they can't pull their shit anymore with HBS so they just want to be as big of PiA as possible before they are put in their place.
     
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    Also some of it (if they settled) is because HBS has paradox now. They may also just not have to keep paying court fees there.
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    This doesn't sound right. This sounds like PGI and HBS didn't win anything at all. HG doesn't own any of these. The locust depicted there was never based off the Robotech "Officer Pod". None of these were even close to anything from Macross. They are mixing apples and oranges. HG can't even get their own fucking story straight. Even if it can be argued that HG still owns the distribution rights to Macross (that in itself has apparently been challenged by Studio Nue), the redesigned art is sufficiently different that copyright shouldn't apply. This sounds like the redesigns are still off the table... which was the whole fucking point to fight this in the first place! Fuck me... this somehow makes me MORE angry. :mad:
     
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    PIG side of it is still ongoing. The dismissal was JUST HBS/Jordan. Any of the others PGI, CGL are still in a fight. Only HBS is out of it now.
     
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    These are the images for the PGI vs HG part of the case.

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