Help Magnus Build A Computer And Win A Prize! (maybe)

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  1. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    This is more of a placeholder thread, because I am financially in no position to start buying stuff. However, I figured it was a good idea to at least start looking.

    Basically, what I need is a new tower and components. Monitor, peripherals, and whatnot are fine (although I would also like to get a decent joystick). I would rather not gut my existing computer because it still works fine as a backup. I am NOT looking for top-of-the-line stuff. "Last generation" tech should be more than adequate; whatever it takes to get the CryEngine 3 (and similar engines) running smoothly. Ideally, I would like to construct a new tower for roughly $500, but may go higher if I need to. Do you guys think you can do it?

    Winning build gets (potentially) a free gift of some in-game item for MWO... if that becomes an option.

    -EDIT-

    It should also be said that I really prefer to choose reliability over performance. That means no overclocking, dual-graphics cards (heat and power issues), etc. I like my machines running cool.
     
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  2. Stynnes

    Stynnes New Guy Thrall

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    Here's a build that's a few hundred outside of your price range, but will play almost everything at max settings and has plenty of wiggle room if you need to shear off a few bucks. In terms of a case, anything corsair or cooler master would be fine. Asus also makes some great, cheap monitors if you're in need of one

    In terms of a joystick - I'd pick up a thrustmaster hotas unless you're willing to shill out an extra 150$ or so for a saitek x-52 pro

    Hope that helps a little bit anyway, I'm at work so I can't do a ton of research. Feel free to ask any questions though :)
     
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    Mezzanine Well Liked Thrall

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    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2011/03/ars-system-guide-march-2011-edition/3/

    The "Hot Rod" build from March of last year is a good bet for performance/price. At current prices you should be able to keep the tower under $500. You're looking at a solid quad-core processor, and a Radeon 6950 or NVIDIA 560ti for graphics. Throw in some RAM and plug in your peripherals. Probably the biggest choice is a small-ish SSD for performance, or a larger 7200 rpm hard drive for utility.

    I use the 2500k and a Radeon 6950 and so far it runs everything I throw at it with ease!
     
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    If your getting a new case, pick up a Lian Li

    Some can get a little pricey, but they are worth it (in my opinion) in the long run for multiple use, good internal space for working and good heat management.
     
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    Ceiling mech. ;_;
     
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    beat me to that obligatory post
     
  7. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    oops. thank you for reminding me.

    fixed
     
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    Here is one that I did. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/exxR

    Not sure if you were going to use your current hard drive or not. The SSD would be for windows and your daily programs. The 1 TB hard drive would be for everything else. You can choose both or 1 or the other.

    The case is always a personal preference. I like cases with alot of air flow.

    The 2gb graphics card is what I run now. I can run 2 monitors off it (27" + 22") and have no issues running at high settings. The 2gb is for multiple monitors or very large monitors with high settings + AA. If you dont plan to run that. You can get a 1gb card.

    You can also go to cyberpower pc and see if you can build a complete system for the money you want to spend.
    http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/
     
  9. Skoll

    Skoll Swine Fornicator Banned

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    Look at my build thread. I helped Myuu build one extremely similar and they both work like a charm. Should be very within your budget and play almost anything on high.
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    I just found this article that mentioned this:

    "Combine an AMD FX CPU with an AMD 9-series chipset motherboard and AMD Radeon HD 6000 series graphics cards to create the AMD “Scorpius” platform."

    Just a thought:
    AMD FX-4170 Zambezi 4.2GHz (4.3GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4170FRGUBOX
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106009
    ASUS M5A97 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131767
    SAPPHIRE 11188-22-20G Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card (OC Edition)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102987

    Could get those 3 for ~$425. Interestingly, the Sapphire GPU was the only 2GB/256-bit card available for under $200. Might be worth it. My current case works just fine (an Antec 900 with excellent cooling; the uncommon 200mm fan is HUGE). Power supply is 650W. It would mean I still only have one functioning computer but I could save on parts and would leave me with a very powerful machine. Hmmm...

    What is the deal with the AMD FX series? Why are the Quads so cheap for the same performance compared to their 8-core versions or the Intel processors? 4.2 GHz for $130 is just nuts! Am I missing something?
     
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    Well clock speed isn't everything; intel's sandy bridge has pretty much beaten amd's bulldozer in every gaming-relevant benchmark. So basically it's a matter of lowering the price to stay competitive (as far as I'm aware)

    130$ is a great price point - but I personally think that it's worth the extra 60$ for an i5-2500k if you have it to spare. The 2500k oc's magnificently (mine is running nice and cool at 4.5 ghz), and it would only be about 550$ for an i5, mobo, and that sapphire 6950 you're looking at (which is a great card)
     
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    Quad cores are the standard now. However, they are really low end. Meaning good for now, but not long term. The eight core processors will be good for another 5 years+. While the 4 core processors will only be viable for another 2 years, if that. At least in terms of gaming and major software.

    If you can swing it, spend a little more now. In order to avoid having to uograde again in 2 years.
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    If I'm not into overclocking at all is the i5 all that better? Like I said before... I prefer my machine to run cool and efficiently. Squeezing more performance out at the risk of my hardware (however small) does not appeal to me.

    Are Quads really that outdated? I can't recall ever needing one until the CryEngine 3 and its contemporaries came out. [In regards to these new engines] this is the first time my Core 2 Duo can't handle a steady 30+ FPS and I bought it 6 years ago (and on sale).
     
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    I believe that the I5 is really solid. You wont need to overclock. In addition, the latest intel chips are very efficient.

    Outdated is a bad word to use, i guess. Its just not as future proof as a 8 core. Also, dont forget if you get a solid video card and a quad processor. You may be creating a bottleneck between the card and cpu. Causing you not to get the top performance of your graphics card.

    It really depends on how much detail and performance you want for your build. Not just now, but years down the road.
     
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    Every benchmark I've ever seen shows that a bulldozer chip actually bottlenecks performance before your video card will. It's just not a great chip unfortunately, and even the i7 does multi-threading better. We've barely even begun properly using quad cores, and by the time 8 becomes necessary I'd guess that you'd be looking to upgrade your system anyway.

    As for the i5, like captain mentioned it performs extremely well even before oc'ing. Although if you don't plan on overclocking I'd go with the standard 2500 as opposed to the 2500k - the only difference between the two is the k is unlocked and more expensive. You also won't need to buy a CPU cooler if you aren't overclocking
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    good to know. thanks guys. i have a few ideas in mind. will let you know

    P.S. - I actually own and use a CPU cooler already. It is funny; my computer actually blows cool air out of it. On those hot summer days you could say it doubles as an air conditioner. :lol:
     
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    Call these guys, problem solved.

    [video=youtube;BrVd0h7_Kms]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrVd0h7_Kms[/video]
     
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    For a CPU, you'd be fine with even just an i3 series CPU. Yes they are only dual-core, but I've got an ultra-low power model in my HTPC and it runs like a champ! I'm not sure how the current Pentium chips based on the i series are (believe they are just an i3 w/o hyperthreading), but that is an inexpensive option as well. Video cards you can save some by getting an older ATI card (depending on what res you want to run), but would say if going Nvidia get at least a 5 series GPU. I do think you will have a hard time getting all new hardware, case, monitor, etc for $500 though. But for that budget I would definitely say that an SSD is out of the question.. but they also aren't "needed", just help oodles with load times. As for memory, if going with a dual-channel system I'd get at least 8 gigs.. if a tri-channel get at least 6. Lian Li cases are amazing, hands down the best cases I have ever owned, however they are also very expensive. An alternative I have found is a company called "LanCool". They actually are the ones who make Lian Li cases, but they make theirs out of alum and steel.. so you get great design and quality, just a bit heavier :)

    Joysticks you are kind of on your own.. I lost my old Microsoft force-feedback stick a few years ago and haven't found one that I "love" to replace it with. Currently I have a Logitech Extreme 3d Pro, and its "ok".. really miss that Sidewinder :p

    Hope some of that info is helpful.. but please feel free to ask me anything too! I love getting my hands inside of peoples machines! ;)
     
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    I really like this Antec Case it's really quite nice for 70 bucks, as long as you like blue LEDs. It comes with four variable speed 120s that are pretty quiet even turned on high, the front and top all have blue LEDs. It has a slot for a fifth 120 on the side that it doesn't come with, but really you probably wont need it. It's super easy to get in and out of, thumb screws, and it opens like a door so no trying to line up lame little tabs with slots. The card slots are easy to access, and it has a fair amount of room to work with over all. As the reviews say depending on the number of fan connectors on you mobo, you may need to get mollex adapters.

    Also if you can squeeze it in your budget, Corsair modular power supplies Cool, quiet, rock solid... and really more power supplies should come with velvet bags. But whatever you do don't go all cheapo on your PSU or you will be a sad puppy when it fries your motherboard. Personally I'll never us a non-modular power supply again, Corsairs are really nice, an right now they are on sale on Newegg.