The Epic Games Store And What To Expect

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  1. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    What a brazen way to piss off all of your player base in one stroke.

    At this point, Fet, I would be careful about any "promises" they give you. They already violated their promise to release for Steam on launch. They could be just telling you that to keep you from asking for a refund until its too late to get one.

    It has happened to me before.
     
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    When they first announced the epic thing the giving steam and GoG keys was not there. It was added a day or 2 later. Probably the number of refunds.

    On the reddit AMA

    Gollop confirmed that Steam and GOG keys would still be given to backers after the exclusive year is up

    Still a shitty move. And I probably won't buy any DLC that comes after the free stuff.
     
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    Honestly if they do this the way they are aiming to, there's a good case for legal action since anyone that paid more than $40 is guaranteed 'early access'. Whether anyone will take up on it is a different thing entirely, but if enough people are infuriated with this tactic and want to truly discourage it for the future, breaking the 'they paid us enough for the exclusive' bubble would certainly be worth the effort. Wouldn't have to win the case, simply push the costs closer to red.
     
    Damion Sparhawk, Apr 11, 2019
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    I think I saw somewhere that even if all backers asked for a refund, snapshot (I think $600,000 or so from backers) they got enough money from Epic to make the game and then some.

    But what about their claim to being mod friendly?
     
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    That's what I'm referring to. Sure they get their profit if they screw everyone. I'd like to see even a losing case put the screws to that bottom line and teach those dipshits there's more than one way to punish greed.
     
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    I honestly don't see how this is even gaining anyone any money. Because steam is far larger (and actually advertises games and I don't think epic does). So not only does the exclusivity cut you out of access to a far larger group of possible customers (which it also probably makes them forget about the game by the time it comes out on the platform they want) or wait till it is on sale on the platform they want. I'm pretty sure the deal made a fair number now want to wait till a 30% steam sale. So now they are waiting longer than a year to buy and even if they buy DLC they might not even spend what base game alone would be. So it is hurting their launch sales. (Epic exclusive apparently does not affect console launch). I think that is even more bullshit.
     
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    Audit Moderator Viking

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    This is going to blow up in Epic's face so delightfully.
     
    Audit, Apr 16, 2019
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    and another one bites the dust...


     
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    Epic is also doing a sale where they are taking $10 off the price of everything over $15 and giving that money to the developer.

    I do not like the Epic store, however if they had led with this I think they would have had a lot more good will.
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    But they didn't... and the sale they are offering is unsustainable in the long run so...

    I don't see much point in supporting something that is clearly anti-consumer in nature.
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    Not attacking you Gihzmo. :wat:

    res ipsa loquitur
    (latin for "the thing speaks for itself")
     
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    Funny bit, the devs still get fully paid. Epic pays for part of it themselves.
    There were also several games not released yet but available to pre order that were on sale. Including a certain vampire game coming soon. It was eventually pulled from the store completely. Will probably appear again after the sale ends.

    Some of the devs might not even have been aware that the sale started.
     
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    Vampire The Masquerade is on EGS?! Is it one of those exclusivity deals?
     
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    Quick Steam store search says no. And, apparently, which is news to me there's a pre-order up for the Bloodlines sequel due in March 2020.
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    From what I understand, Paradox thought Epic was making them eat the difference in the discount. That turned out to not be the case.

    Sterling originally defended the Epic store under the premise of "competition is good". While in concept he's not wrong, I'm glad he has come around to see Epic's aggressive tactics in the market are not healthy for us in the long run. Epic isn't concerned with creating "competition" so much as total domination.

    Epic is essentially trying to pull the same tactic as Chinese steel companies when they tried to flood the market with cheap steel to put all the American manufacturers out of business. The end goal for them is a monopoly in their favor.
     
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    MagnusEffect, May 18, 2019
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    When the glory hole known as fortnite finally crashes we will see if epic truly does give two shits about the consumer. by then epic will probably have to go public to bring in more cash and once that happens they will have investors dicks to suck off or they will be cut off.
     
    Hollister, May 21, 2019
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    The only glory hole I'm interested in is yours big boy! :gleetopus:
     
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