The Epic Games Store And What To Expect

Wow. That is incredibly shitty. Thanks for posting.

 

I'm withholding judgement on this atm, since they can fix it pretty easy so whether they *do* will say a lot about their motivations. Hopefully Epic will see sense since my Steam friend list is flatly just not worth tanking their whole dang store before it even gets off the ground.

 

Dunno- seems to me that what you do when nobody else is watching speaks volumes about motivations

 

Yeah, but corporations are a bit weird in that regard. Like how Google had to have a motto of "Don't be Evil" and then they were kinda evil anyway. In the scheme of things it's not *too* big a deal but it does totally raise red flags.

 

That's my thinking. There is no legitimate reason for them to know one damn thing about what games I've purchased at another store. That's none of their business. And there's also no way this a "bug" or something. Someone sat down and wrote a piece of code that searches my computer for stuff that has nothing to do with them and gave them access to it, and someone else approved its use. I don't care one iota that they're "fixing" it. They're only doing that because they got caught.

I will not be buying anything else on the Epic store again. This may not be "too big a deal" but I don't trust them now not to have some other bullshit on my system that just hasn't been found yet.

 

Yeah I should note I'm a thousand percent *not* buying anything from them at this point. Steam was kinda bullshit at launch too though so here's hoping Epic pulls their game around. They've been a thing for like thirty years after all.

 

Competition would have been good but they are just bullying their way in. They have even said that this "war" will be decided by the developers not the consumers. I also want to remember but im not sure that they have said that their current cut is actually not viable in the long run.

Developers are going for the epic store solely for that lower cut. It increases their profits and makes their share holders happy.

For us consumers its horrible, Epic have had some reputation about not being consumer friendly even before the appearence of the epic store and that reputation have gotten worse. Even more so, they are starting to build a reputation of doing shady things. The epic store have poor security, almost no functions and an absolutely awful customer support.

I have never really cared about Epic in the past but these last couple months have really made me look at them with disdain. I do not trust them on anything they say.

Quote taken from https://www.pcgamer.com/epic-wants-...nline-services-even-if-they-release-on-steam/

 

Yeah it's nuts how conceited Epic's being here. There's tons of games I can't play because I just don't have the right hardware, and they think I'll give a toss if some dev doesn't wanna sell to me just for no reason at all? Fft.

 

HA!

So Phoenix Point did the 1 year PC exclusive thing with Epic Games. Backers and preorders (up till the 12th of March) get the first year of dlc free (and they had a bunch of stuff planned). But I just noticed this in their email/FAQ about it. They did offer 28 days for a refund. (So I think till April 8th think.)

Guess I'm waiting a year to download the game. I don't want to download epic at all. Still not cool pulling that.

If I remember right that bit about also getting a steam and GOG key was not originally there. Must have been added because of the large numbers of refunds.

 

Yeah, I'm not installing Epic Store and will pass on any games that can only be played there. I have no qualms ignoring a good game because of the developer or platform it's on. Looking at you EA and Apex Legends.

 

There's also a difference between competition and trying to gain share by creating a mini-monopoly, which is the opposite of competition. If they were actually competing with a better product, pricing, or some kinda of membership rewards, thats one thing and I'm totally on board with that, but buying exclusivity is a bad way to go about it.

 

Truthfully, these guys have gone above and beyond to make it perfectly clear they have no intention of doing anything beyond raking in whatever profits they can strangle out of the community. They have no interest in the games, save in how much they can make off them, they don't listen to the people they're supposed to be selling to, and they ignore clear indicators that the direction they have chosen is not a sustainable market. Whoever's in charge of the project has basically locked the steering wheel in position and is racing towards whatever disaster is imminent simply because they're already invested into it and they're simply not going to deviate from the planned course.

 

Welcome to Tencent, the Chinese shadow corporation that a frighteningly large amount of people are entirely unaware of.

 

Here is something fun for thought. Phoenix point devs said something along the line of "Even if every backer refunds the game. They will still make a profit due to the money given to them by epic."

I believe but I'm not sure though that Phoenix Point made something like $760 000 from backers.

 

Epic is paying in minimum guaranteed sales. So even if they don't sell a single copy over the defined contract period, Epic has to make up the difference.

 

That's actually kind of frustrating, since Snapshot shouldn't get a pass considering it's not like Epic forced them to go back on their promises.

 

Apparently backer builds for pheonix point are now through epic store (I haven't downloaded it and don't plan to.) But since backers from before they announced the epic thing are supposed to get a steam and GoG key in addition to the epic (after the 1 year exclusivity) and all the first year DLC. That made me not ask for a refund.

I think snapshot said it was going to be mod friendly as well but epic doesn't do mods as far as I know. That doesn't seem very mod friendly. That's like going back to the days before steam with modding.