Crowfall - Throne War PC MMO

Discussion in 'Other Games' started by Audit, Feb 27, 2015.

  1. Damion Sparhawk

    Damion Sparhawk The Missing Link Viking

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    The hell is the status of this?
     
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    Tuonela Well Liked Berserker

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    Uh, probably in Star Citizen land without as much progress and smaller scope. They're releasing pieces and have a working alpha but its pretty uninspired so far, but I haven't actually logged in in over a year.
     
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    Audit Moderator Viking

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    With day 2 of Crowfall now officially in the bag, I'm going to post my observations about the game.

    - This is NOT a solo game! If you don't have a group, or an entire guild to roll with, you're not going to have a good time.
    - The "New Player Experience" is terrible, and does almost nothing to represent what the game is really about. If you have VIP you can boost to 25 and skip it, I highly recommend doing so. If you have backed the game at any point, you have VIP. Use it.
    - This is not a PvE game, even the "PvE Elements" require PvP or require you being protected from PvP by others. If you're going into this game hoping to be a PvE Andy and just dedicate yourself to crafting or gathering, you're not going to have a good time unless you have a guild to back you up and feed you materials.
    - Everything in this game requires crafting, and crafting requires a very large resource commitment and those resources are not easy to obtain. This all goes back to having a guild. If you don't have a guild to play with, you're locked out of 90% of the game by proxy.
    - Crowfall requires a lot of coordination. This game revolves around guilds and guild warfare, and will make your life miserable if you're not in one. Joining a sizable, AND COORDINATED, guild as soon as you log in is the best thing you can do. Because once you pass the New Player Experience there is very little (read: nothing) you can really do without a guild.
    - The game actively punishes solo players. Most the of the high end gathering materials come in nodes called "motherlodes" and you can't even gather them without a group of specially equipped gatherers.

    TLDR: Join a guild ASAP if you want to actually enjoy the game and see what it really has to offer. If you're expecting any solo play experience at all, don't even bother, the game is just not for you. Sorry.
     
  6. Dihm

    Dihm Speaker of the Word Staff Member Gothi SC Thane

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    So real talk. Do we really want to try to be a guild for this? Or should we all join up somewhere together?
     
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    Audit Moderator Viking

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    In my honest estimate, I think the level of manpower and coordination required to succeed in this game is beyond what we could bring to bare here in the Borg.

    I'm currently rolling with PRX, who are members of the Whiteblade Alliance on the US East Dregs server. We're currently winning the Dregs campaign by like 7k points. I'm sure anyone from the Borg who wants in could easily get in if you said you guys knew me.
     
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    Honestly, I would love it if we could pull together for this. Realistically, I expect our best option would be to have any of our more active players find a solid and active guild we can join for those of us who're not as active. Personally, I'm quite peeved that this is basically not what they pitched originally, but such is life.
     
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    Audit Moderator Viking

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    Yeah, unfortunately I think this is a little beyond what we're capable of. I think the Borg has like 4, maybe 5, people actively playing Crowfall? That's just not enough people to do anything substantial in the game. As I said before, I joined PRX, they're a member of the winning Alliance on US East Dregs at the moment. They're recruiting, and anyone who wants to play Crowfall and roll with an active and coordinated guild is welcome to join and name drop me as a reference.
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    As much as I would love to see a big concerted effort in this, I agree with Audit; we don't have the numbers and I don't think anyone here is willing to commit to a sustained recruitment drive for new players to increase our numbers. I welcome the opportunity to be wrong about that, though.

    If we get enough people interested, I am okay with joining forces with another group exclusively for Crowfall, but that has yet to be determined.

    Then again, Tribes of Midgard might be more our speed?
     
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    Tbh I did very little in the beta for Crowfall and don't have much of a grasp on where the game is (besides it being RvR, lots of crafting, etc). I do know quite a few of us had accounts and stuff for the game from the crowdfunding campaign so it seems a bit of a waste to just abandon and rush of to something else, though I don't think we'll have quite the numbers and engagement to form a powerhouse guild on our own; we'd probably want to ally with some other folks and figure our own guild activities as some mutual aid and streamlined production, if that's feasible.

    Would it be a good idea perhaps to try to get a weekend play day going and dip our toes in on a relatively casual server, see if we like it enough to do some regular activity?
     
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    Audit Moderator Viking

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    Within The Dregs (the guild vs guild server), there is a guild Alliance system. And the system really forces guilds into making larger alliances in order to succeed. The smallest guilds in the big Alliances that are actually able to compete, usually field upwards of a 30 man raid consistently. The largest guilds bring 100, sometimes even more, to bare for PvP engagements. If the Skjaldborg can field a steady 30+ people playing Crowfall on a regular basis, we would be able to find a home in an Alliance that actually has a shot at doing something. Unfortunately, I just don't think the numbers are there. Like I said in my previous post, we have 4 or 5 people actually playing Crowfall. That's not enough to be anything more than an outpost capping nuisance to the larger guilds that actually managing to get to experience the full game.

    For anyone that wants to still play Crowfall and experience everything the game has to offer, I recommend doing what I did and fall in with a larger guild that has an established place in a good Alliance. Not trying to break CoC (anymore than I already have), but I joined PRX, and they're recruiting. Friends of friends are always welcome. If you want to join up, hit me up on Discord and I'll give a link.
     
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    I think you're fine. Much as I would like to see us all jump aboard this ship I know it's not going to happen, and not just because they dropped the PVE ball entirely. Honestly I'm sad but okay, though I may consider selling my account since I got all sorts of in game goodies I may never bother utilizing.
     
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    Audit Moderator Viking

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    They were fairly open about how little PvE there would be, though. It's always been a PvP game right from the get-go. Gathering, Crafting, and the occasional world boss are the only real PvE aspects they promised, and all of those are in the game.
     
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    Originally they were supposed to have shards that were more 'safe' with more PVE content. They made it clear that to get the best stuff you were going to have to move into dangerous territories, but that's not what they delivered. This isn't even the PVE equivalent of Shadowbane, which is the nearest analog I can make. What they originally stated was vague and unfinished, and clearly they made some decisions at some point to just drop the majority of PVE entirely. This is the risk I took by crowdfunding early. I am not angry with them for the game they made, it's just not the game I was hoping for.
     
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    What you stated is actually in the game, though. There's safe zones within Lunarium, Solarium, and Arborium on God's Reach. These safe areas don't allow enemy players in, so you're free to gather and kill mobs for gold at your leisure. The issue being the gathering nodes are low rank, and the mobs give lower gold and exp drops. If you go outside the safe zone you find better nodes and better mobs, but at the risk of encountering enemy players. And if you leave God's Reach entirely and go to a place like The Dregs, you'll find even better stuff, up to rank 10 gathering nodes and really powerful world bosses that drop a tone of materials and unlock entire gathering zones that aren't accessible until you defeat the boss.
     
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    I guess I should actually play a bit before I decide, but given my personal aversion towards PvP, I am likely not to enjoy the game itself without folks about to play with. Regularly.
     
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    Well, in that you're also lucky. The game is not a solo game, so guilds are an integral aspect of the game. There are hundreds of guilds, and they're almost always recruiting. Just zone a character into the current Dregs campaign and take a look at the leaderboards. Any guild in the top 15 is worth joining, imo.