BioWare - Anthem

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  1. Tuonela

    Tuonela Well Liked Berserker

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    Yea, Frostbite probably isn't great, but to me it sounds like Bioware has major issues internally with direction, leadership and turnover.
     
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    Seeing as though for 2 to 3 years they had no direction and they couldn't even figure out what the game was going to be. Yea I would say they had leadership issues lol.

    I hope the release and Apex legends success allows them the breathing room to fully flesh it out. I imagine it will take another 6 months.

    Someone did say the game is damned impressive for having basically an 18 month development time. Not that it is an excuse.
     
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    I liked the part where they took out flying and then had to put it back because the game sucked. Its the only redeeming quality about the game at the moment.
     
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    I think the combat feels good. But it needs more. It needs more skills more content, more guns. More things to work towards and work for. It doesnt feel rewarding and there is not enough combat. But the core game is a lot of fun.
     
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    From Angry Joe This was not all EA, this was BioWare Leadership and their failure to make decisions.

     
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    Was just finishing that and coming here to post it. Bioware's response in particular was insulting.

    But I will add that after everything that's come out in the last month or so, I am at the minimum taking a LONG break from Anthem and am probably done with it forever. It needs a pretty damn big overhaul to be worth spending any time with at this point.

    Maybe they'll get the time to actually work on it and make whatever game they wanted to make in the first place and it will be great, but my fear is that EA will just get sick of paying for a broken product and just kill funding completely in a few months.

    Bare minimum, I am never buying a Bioware game on launch day again. They have some serious issues they need to work through internally if they ever want to make a decent game again.
     
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    Bioware Austin got completely fucked on all of this because they were not the A team and Bioware Edmonton ignored everything they said from their online live service experience.
     
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    I'm giving it a while. I want to come back to it. Apparently BioWare Austin is the live service team and I hope that they can get it back onto the rails and get it in a good state. But I imagine it will take 6 months easy.
     
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    Sincerely doubt they'll get 3 more months at this rate, let alone 6 months or a year.

    I say this because the marketing budget for this game had to be astronomical. They hired a renowned director to make a fucking short film and plastered shit all over the internet and even TV. I can't recall the last time I saw a game pushed so hard for so long. Despite this, it has been widely regarded critically and publically as unfinished, unengaging, and lacking content.

    If CoD 4 was considered a financial disappointment after it made literally $500m in three days I cannot imagine what EA will say about Anthem when the baked figures are released. I would be flabberghasted if Anthem pulled in half of that since its release.

    However. All of this does reinforce a feeling that Bioware as a studio has been a shell of what it once was for years now.
     
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    Yea, I uninstalled it. I'll give it a go sometime later, but right now it needs some more time in the oven.
     
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    EDIT: sorry, I missed that this had been posted on the last page.

    Jason Shreier has shined a spotlight on what REALLY happened with Anthem's development and it does not look good at all:
    https://kotaku.com/how-biowares-anthem-went-wrong-1833731964

    Suffice to say, I would not hold any hope for a happy ending here. EA's track record for supporting failing games (in their eyes) is undeniably... "low". And the whole narrative that "maybe the pressure is off Anthem because Apex did so well" completely ignores how the business world thinks (not directing that at anyone here.. its just a weird suggestion I see popping up in other channels too). If anything, this makes the situation WORSE for Anthem. EA is ran by business minded people, and at the end of the day, they are going to support whatever action makes them the most money. If anything, that means slowly pulling support for Anthem and pushing more assets to Apex (and elsewhere).

    And to be perfectly honest, I can't really blame EA in this specific case (given what we know now).
     
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    They did the same thing with SWTOR. Spent a bunch of money on advertising and other bullshit the game didn't need (like full voice acting). I think they, as a studio, have lost sight of what gamers actually want. I don't care if random NPCs X, Y, and Z are fully and uniquely voiced, or if there is a short film to go with the game.

    Wait... you mean taking an engine that was purpose built to create large battleground shooters, and pigeonholing it into any other type of game DOESN'T work?! WHAAAAAAAAAAT?! No way.
     
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    And thus ends the sad tale. Womp womp.
     
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    Can't say we didn't see this one coming, though.