Mechwarrior 5: Mercenaries

Discussion in 'MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries' started by StalaggtIKE, Dec 4, 2016.

  1. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for too. It would be simplest just to let the host pre-configure mechs. If you are joining a campaign and have something specific in mind, just make the request to the host.

    Alternatively, it could be something like co-op in newer Total War games where the host assigns player control at the start of battle.
     
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    Hakija Chaos Pony Viking

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    Or it could be, "Hey, you're hiring a fellow mercenary and they brought their own gear."

    They may be stronger than you, but they get a cut of your earnings.
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    Maybe with a charge up-front for hiring based on their equipment? Wouldn't mind that as long as it didn't turn the early-midgame into a cakewalk.
     
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    well, keep in mind repair and rearm, if you go striding into a light mech mission with an assault, even if you win, the ammo and damage you take may outweigh the payout.
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    That's a stretch, but I don't think that's the best way to achieve balance. If a mech deals more damage overall, it will often take less damage overall because it can finish the fight faster. Unless the pilot is an idiot, of course. Almost two decades of battletech tells me so.
     
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    Hakija Chaos Pony Viking

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    I'm usually in favor of just letting players play the way they want. If they want to do something that screws up game balance in a mostly single player game, as far as I'm concerned, that's their business. It's different in multiplayer focused games, of course. There balance is really important.

    But for this one, I'd rather a player have a slightly easier time by bringing a friend's Atlas into an early mission than have them give up and not finish the game at all.
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    Fair enough, but isn't that what difficulty settings are.for?
     
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    Hakija Chaos Pony Viking

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    Sure, I just don't see any reason to impose limits unless it's really necessary.

    It's a singleplayer/co-op game; people who don't want it to be easier can ignore the stuff that makes it easier.
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    Maybe we have a different opinion on game design then. Personally, I feel it is the responsibility of the game designer to create a specific "default" experience for people to create a good first impression of the game. That's generally what makes or breaks a game in critical reviews. If people want to break outside that, use cheat codes, exploits or whatever, that's fine, but it should be an optional or secondary thing... not part of the default experience.

    In the case of Battletech, maybe a toggle button in options menu that allowed for players to import their own mechs into someone's campaign. But it should be something that was off by default.
     
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    You're wrong Magnus. Accept it. Butt fuck!
     
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    Possibly.

    I would be fine with having that option turned off by default. I just like the option to be there.
     
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    I just assumed if you were doing single player campaign that drop in would be restricted to the hosts stable of mechs, otherwise whats the point of a campaign when you can completely side-step the resource requirements? Granted, I don't personally care if they made it possible. Skirmish / multiplayer is fine when you want to run what you want.
     
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    Yeah, that's basically what I was saying. I can understand how some people might want to craft their own experience, though.
     
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    they could do it with tonnage restrictions pretty easily, sure you can bring your own mech, but you gotta cram it into this much space!
     
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    :psychotic::nanahump:
     
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    Huh. I saw the timeline on sarna for this is 3015-3049. So I wonder if that means tech advancement or they just had no idea what the actual year would be for the game.
     
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    It means Clan stuff will be DLC. :D
     
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    Ends just before the invasion or the last mission is the start of the invasion "oh you want to play against the clans? Well you need this expansion that is $40"
     
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    wrong mechwarrior
     
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    You're right. New mechs are $20 each. :glee: