See, I'll buy Kill la Kill, sometime a few years from now when it's selling for half to a quarter that price, until then I'll watch it on whatever service is offering it that I won't have to pay extra for. Of course I watched it on Hulu I believe, so I don't need to really watch it again for a while XD
I have not experienced that, but to be fair, I probably don't watch as much anime as you do and I tend to be behind on whatever the new releases are. Also, like Damion said, Crunchy Roll and services like it are an easy way to get my fix.
saitama wouldn't even need to punch. also why does yamcha look odd. like he wants to make love with saitama. Unless that is the look the artist was going for?
Isn't this pretty much what this fight would look like though? It'd be like the sparring match with Genos, except Yamcha's probably actually several orders of magnitude stronger than Genos.
Probably at the beginning even, considering Roshi's strong enough to completely vaporize the moon without much effort. Definitely by the end of the Frieza arc since he was stronger than the Ginyu force by then. Actually now that I think of it it's kind of ridiculous how much untapped potential humans in that show had. I bet if anyone had ever tried they could have trained an army of Ginyus a few hundred thousand strong. Earthlings wouldn't be the strongest in the universe but they'd be pretty up there.
Humans make up for their lack of strength with AMAZING Ki control. All of the really cool, creative moves in the series are thought up by humans. The kamehameha wave, the scatter kamehameha, the keinzan, solar flare, you name it. Everyone else in the series just uses some variation on the basic blast and/or beam attack. They give them funny names, but they all work the same. Humans are able to take a basic blast and modify its properties to make it hit outside its "normal" power level, change direction mid flight, or other things. Krillin is probably the grand master of ki control. It's a shame he's treated as comic relief so much. I am REALLY looking forward to how he does in the univeral tournament, now that he's got his spirit back.
Considering it is a universal free for all from what I understand it could end badly for some, but killing is supposed to be against the rules.
Then again considering the existence of the universe is on the line anybody who fights dirty might find themselves immediately eliminated by their own god of destruction.
because the Dragon Balls, instant teleportation, spirit bomb and the fusion technique were just footnotes in the show ^.^ But yes, the Destructo disc is possibly the single most powerful attack they use, for the energy required to use it. And Krillin was quite the strategist himself, often finding ways to fight -way- outside his weight class.
Maybe I should revise my statement to include direct combat oriented abilities. The spirit bomb is the only one on that list like that, and it was thought up by a god. No telling how long that took. I do think it's interesting that Goku in particular is amazimg at copying techniques, but I can't immediatly think of one's he's actually created himself. Drahonball also draws a very sharp line between ki and magic. Instsnt ttansmission is a ki based ability, but the the dragon balls are created with magic, and we have no idea how fusion works. But I should have many instead of all, so my bad on that one.
Fusion is probably also a ki ability considering it fails in ways bordering on body horror if your power levels aren't exactly equal.
I don't think goku has created a technique. He has done variations but i think he mostly copies and drastically improves like kaio ken times 1,000 or whatever bullshit.
Dragon Fist is debatable given that it came from a film and is never used in the actual canon story. I think the only other time he ever uses it is in GT.
It's not debatable, regardless of whether it is canon or not, it is still the only move Goku is supposed to have come up with on his own, thereby if it is not canon then canon Goku is an unoriginal tool who just happens to be able to use everyone elses abilities far better than they can themselves, and if it is canon, Goku is still an unoriginal tool who just happens to have had one brilliant thought of his own and never again. Though really, who's to say someone else hadn't already created it, but wasn't as powerful or well known as Goku and so never got credit for it, and Goku just happened upon a similar idea. All considered isn't everything we do just improving upon those things we learned in the past? Sure you can have an original thought, a revolutionary concept or idea, but there's no way of ever knowing for a fact that someone else didn't have the exact same idea, and simply not be in a place or situation by which they could do something about it. Imagine if there were hundreds of Einsteins before Albert who simply lacked the courage, motivation, or circumstance to simply move on their brilliance. And in that case then Goku is simply doing what everyone does already, improving upon the building blocks he's been given. Nothing wrong with that.
Fair points, but Goku wasn't actually the focus of the original debate anyway. We know he's a genius at fighting and an idiot in most other areas. We were actually talking about the shown level of average control between various races presented. We actually haven't seen enough Saiyans to make much of a baseline for them. Vegeta's constant annoyance at Goku's lack of foresight can imply that Goku is of below average intelligence even by their standards. This might be explained by the head injury, but we don't know for sure. Vegeta on the other hand is a fairly decent strategist when he applies himself to it. Not to the level of someone like Piccolo or Krillin, but pretty good. But he still limits himself to basic blast forms when usimg ki. He knew the false moon trick, but there's no sign that he thought it up himself. I still think from the characters we've seen on screen, the humans demonstrate the highest average level of creativity with ki use. That might just be because when you count Dragonball in with Z, more of the fighters are human in the first place, but that's still the end result.
I suspect it's more along the lines of the weaker species concept, Goku is strong surrounded by a species that is inherently weaker than he is, but driven to seek out the best and challenge them. Humans are weaker and have therefor less access to ki, but they do have access to it, and have spent a lot of time honing what little they can drum up into potent weapons to battle the monsters and other things on their world. Here comes Goku with his ludicrous power, and possessing of an ability to duplicate nearly any ability he sees, but he rarely wants to destroy his opponent, and frequently even after defeating them actually desires to see them get stronger so he can fight them again, combine that with a species already used to coming up with creative ways to deal with stronger enemies and you've got a virtual factory for ingenuity, which only becomes more active the stronger and stronger the enemies Goku manages to draw attention of/to, his companions are dragged along in his footsteps but never quite able to reach that level, so they do what they've always done and figure out a way to hack the system, Kirk style.
